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coming to the northeast. let's get those plows out early. >> andrew.verizon. i might actually want it. >> contracts were made to be broken. what did you learn? >> i learned once again that what happened in tucson is not about us. it's about what happened about in tucson. >> absolutely. i learned that joe can actually get you out of a contract if you'd like. >> she's learned it before. you'll learn it now. what time is it? >> it's morning joe. stick around for the daily rundown with chuck and savannah. jared loughner gets his first day in court as the nation gets its first good look at the man accused of the tragic shooting. president obama who led a moment of silence monday prepare as rip to tucson for a public memorial here. and congresswoman giffords still
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in the icu gives doctors a thumbs up. we'll talk live with one of her physicians this morning. good morning, everyone. it's tuesday, january 11th, 2011. i'm savannah guthrie in tucson. >> and i'm chuck todd here in our studio in tucson. the first formal mass for the victims will be held tonight. >> and the president and first lady will arrive tomorrow. wednesday there will be a major public memorial about 6:00 local time. the president will speak and we've learned a bit more about it. it's at mchale center. the president will make remarks. there will be a poet friday r p. it's a chance for the president to remember the victims. he talked about the need to speak to the sense of loss.
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what we don't know, of course, is how much he'll talk about political civility. he's talked about a lot in the past. it's a fine line. no new swelling in the brain. her doctor reports this morning. which is excellent. she gave a thumbs up to her doctors and even reached for her breathing tube. she also according to doctors has a functional recovery possible. we're going to get the latest there one of her doctors in a few minutes. >> one of the quotes being 100% chance of some sort of recovery, which is just haerg the words 100% combined with the thumbs up i think has lot to many
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members of this community because it speaks to the magnitude of the grief that they feel, that the president of the united states would come to this little town and share in the grief. and it's something that came together very last minute will. i know as well as you do that the white house just accepted this invitation about 6:00 last night. they're still trying to make these plans. and just talking to local reporters i still know from when i worked here, they didn't even know about this memorial service until late credit. and the other side of the story is the investigation.
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on monday the manation got its first look at the man accused and for more than we want to turn to miguel almaguer who was there in the courtroom as it this suspect, loughner, was arraigned. >> reporter: he was only in court for a short time, about 15 minutes. he said very little in court. he did not enter a plea. he was assigned a public defender. his attorney are will now be judy clarke, a high profile defense attorney who has represented other clients in pretty big profile cases including ted kozonski. there will be a hear to gody if there is enough information for the case to go trial. some surveillance video of saturday's shooting does exist.
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there's also speculation that loughner could enter an insanity plea. he faces two counts of murder, three counts of attempted murder, including the attempted assassination of gabrielle giffords. if convicted, he could get the death penalty. the judge called him a danger to the community. >> thanks very much. savannah will have more on what kind of defense that loughner could put up later this hour. let's turn to other news. let's go to the markets. becky quick with the latest. i know this is earnings quarter. what can we expect on the markets today and who do we hear from today? >> we're looking at a better opening today. it looks like the markets could be up by about 50 points above fair value. it all depends on what happens after the opening bell, but already good news.
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alcoa we heard from last night and while alcoa shares may not be trading higher, they said a pew things that have analysts pretty optimistic about what we'll be looking for. they're expecting up by about 12% in part because of more demand for aluminum for things like auto sales. another bright point, some of the retailers coming out, and there had been concerns after we heard from some of the december sale, but this morning both tiffany and sears are talking about how they're seeing better than expected earnings. and you can expect to see some very good things coming out of them. sears shares trading up by about 9% today, so that is very good new, as well. >> so sears and tiffanys. two different markets. >> either end of this. it says that the upscale people are back and it also says people are looking for bargains.
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and i don't know if either of you have come up with new year's resolutions, maybe to eat little healthier -- >> eat this, not that. >> me certainly. and that's something that the fast food companies are feeling very sharply. taco bell, pizza hut, papa john's pizzas, you've got burger king, all coming out trying to get people back in because the first quarter generally is typically slow sales because we have new year's resolutions. they are doing their very best. taco bell has this $5 deal box, cheap pizza, cheap everything. >> that's what we need. fatten us up in january. thanks very much. >> let's turn to other news. hillary clinton made an unannounced visit to yemen urging officials to step up the fight against extremisextremist said the extremist threat isn't confined to the arab world.
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>> we have extremists in my country, a wonderful, incredibly brave young woman congress member, congresswoman giffords, was just shot by an extremists in our country. the extremists and the crazy voices that sometimes get on the tv, that's in the who wenin thee or not who you are. >> she's the first secretary of state to visit yemen in 20 years. she'll also travel to qatar. well, let's turn to weather. down south, snow and ice paralyzing several major cities and airports. 2,000 accidents were reported in south carolina alone. across the southern region, nine feel have died. the storm is now headed to the east coast where it could dump a foot or more of snow. the weather channel's paul goodloe is here in washington. it's my understanding two
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different subpoenas will merge basically on the garden state parkway and start dumping snow, is that correct? >> reporter: yeah, not quite sure what exit that will happen, but it's generally a good diagram what'sing for to happen. again, that big southern storm basically is still shut down atlanta, that system pushing offshore and a new surface low is developing. now, we're also watching a snowstorm that brought some snow across the midwest. that will dump more mrg thenerg that will dump a huge sloth of snow from parts of northern new jersey through new york city, long island, connecticut, into boston. we're talking one to two feet of snow easily as we wind this up sometime late in the day on wednesday. now, here in d.c. on the southern edge of this system as we've been seeing a few flurries today, we might see about an inch or two. there this are new models that say 2 to 5 inches.
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but up in philadelphia, we could see a half foot to maybe even ten inches of snow. but new york city, boston, another big time snowstorm and we know how much problems we have trying it clear the streets there. and guess what, we could be going through that again as we head into your wednesday night across the northeast and new england. >> all right. thank you, paul. we're assuming that both mayor bloomberg and governor christie have gotten the memo about this forecast. thanks very much. well, chuck, coming up here on the daily rundown, we'll get into this growing controversy over this nation's and frankly this state's gun laws. would things have turned out differently here in tucson if the gun regulations were different. we'll talk about the new push to outlaw those high capacity ammunition clips like the one used in the attack right here. there's a big movement in washington. we'll get into that. >> but first, a look ahead at the president's schedule.
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everybody was hit being the ground including me, and so i turned it my left and went to go down. and i lowered my head about six inches and i felt it burning sensation in the back of my head. but the burning sensation and a stinging sensation. and i went right on to the ground. >> that was one of the here rows of this event, 74-year-old retired army colonel bill badger, he was wounded and bleeding and one of three who tackled jared lee loughner. loughner was wrestled to the ground while trying to reload
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his gun. but he got off at least 31 rounds before emptying the magazine. >> and several members of congress are now drafting legislation to put federal restrictions on those so-called high capacity clips like the one in loughner's semi-automatic pistol. michael, first of all, tell us about this movement in congress. and as i understand it, these extended clips used to be banned in conjunction with the assault weapons ban. >> exactly. in fact this was an issue that was first flagged to me on sunday by senior law enforce the officials on the scene? arizona, not gun control groups. they pointed out loughner when he had that clock 19 miss popis had along with him four magazines with 90 round s of ammunition. that is a lot of fire power. two were high capacity
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magazines, 33 rounds each. and what most people didn't realize or are just beginning to realize, those magazines were banned under federal law. you couldn't manufacture those. and of course that law expired under president bush in 2004. since then the manufacture, sale, transfer are perfectly legal. so what gerald loughner was using on sunday was magazines that he could not have had legally or at least could not have been made legally in this country only seven years ago. and i think that's the sissue. law enforcement saying let's go back the way the law used to be and you could have saved some lives. he wouldn't have been able to get off as many rounds if he had
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standard magazines. >> and i know it's carolyn mccarthy in the house who of course her husband was the victim of a gun shoots and senator lawsuit introducing this legislation. some have bans, but just a handful. >> just a handful. and arizona has among the weakest gun law it is in the country. jan brewer did away with carrying weapons permits last year so there's not even a permitting requirement. she signed a law that allows you to take guns and s in to bars restaurants. but what gun control groups are saying is it is very often a national tragedy like this this, and when it involves somebody they know, gun violence, when
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they can relate to it, it very often concentrates the thought and what they're saying is this is a common sense measure, just these high capacity magazines. >> all right. michael, thank you. one of the striking aspects about the crime, jared lee loughner did everything legally to acquire a hand gun. in 2007, he was arrested on a misdemeanor charge for drug pair p paraphernalia. he was rejected by the army because of his own drug use. and he was suspended from the community college here in tucson. >> and yet in november, he cleared an fbi background check and legally purchased this semi-automatic glock 9 millimeter pistol. just hours before the shooting,
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he bought the bullets at walmart. the president of the brady campaign to prevent gun violence. the nra declined to join our discussion saying anything but prayers for the victims and their families would be inappropriate. i want to go through arizona's law. anyone 18 or over can buy a firearm. no permit is needed for conce concealed weapons. concealed weapons allowed in will bars if owner isn't drinking. not the owner of the bar, the other than of the gun. unloaded concealed guns allowed on school property and guns are legal at the state capital and other public building. is it easier to get a gun than prescription drugs? >> much easier. first of all, we have a weak federal law. really just a handful of federal law, and those have a lot of gaps in them particularly since the assault weapon ban expired.
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at the local level, we only have a handful of states that do anything. a year ago we ranked all the states. le california came out number one with 76. arizona got two points and that was only because they weren't forcing colleges to allow guns on campus yet. in the last year, they now alone anyone without a permit to carry pistols anyplace. we need to change these laws. these sorts of things can be stopped or at least the violence can be reduced. >> paul, i have to ask you, are you familiar with this script, a terrible incident occurs like the one we're experiencing here in tucson. people talk about gun roll for a time. and then nothing really changes. in fact, if you look at it,off the course of the last few decades, the gun laws have become less strict, not more strict.decades, the gun laws ha become less strict, not more strict.few decades, the gun law become less strict, not more strict.decades, the gun laws ha become less strict, not more strict.
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desire for stricter gun laws has actually gone down. >> i think people assume that there are laws on the books. when i took this job 4 1/2 years ago, people said i've probably got an illegal gun. i don't have a license. you're not required to have any of that. i hope this incident, that maybe folks will step up. 30 years ago, jim paiddy was in a similar situation. bull to t bullet to the head and people finally passed the brady bill. that's what we need. >> there is a law on the books that if you're adjudicated as mentally up stable, you can't purchase a gun. so what is this background check that's done? >> basically what happens is
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somebody goes to a dealer, they fill out a for, the form asks them some questions. they ask are and you felon. you check no. are you dangerously mental hil. no. are you addicted to a controlled substance. no. for 25 year, that was it and you got to buy a gun. the brady bill said we won't rely on the bad guy to be honest. we'll send to the computer cat ta database. it checks the records that the states voluntarily submit. they don't have to send in anything. >> are there any states that don't do it? >> most states send in something. but what we found after virginia tech is there is only 75% of the felony record, at that time only 10% to 20% of the mental health records. basically the computer looks for the guy's name. if the name didn't show up -- >> there's not a competency test. >> no. it's harder to get a job at the mcdonald's than it is to get a gun in this country.
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>> will there has been a supreme court ruling that found an individual's right to bear arms in the constitution, something that scholars had wondered about almost since the beginning of the bill of rights. where do you see this debate going and being a practical person what kinds of changes will your group and groups like yours lobby for? >> we're looking for common sense steps in the middle. the stre supreme court said that right was not unlimited and could you have restrictions on who gets guns, how they're cared aried a what types of guns those are. so in the middle a what we're working for. we ought to immediately do the restrictions on high capacity clips and i would hope that fellow republicans -- i'm a republican. republicans need step up to the plate. this is a law and order issue.
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the only reason you need high capacity clips is to kill a lot of people very quickly. again, this person was stopped not by someone else carrying the gun. if he had to reload after ten shots instead of 30, a lot less people would be killed. we need to have committee hearings about the whole back i don't understand check system, who is dangerous an how d how w make this country safer. >> is owning a gun a right or privileg privilege. >> supreme court says it's a right. still to come, vice president biden's first trip to afghanistan since taking office. what kind of message is he delivering to president karzai? a live report from kabul coming up. e. so we earned a trip to vegas twice as fast! [ brays ] and since double miles add up fast, we can bring the whole gang. is caesar home? we get double miles every time we use our card, no matter what we're buying. thank you! thank you very much!
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74-year-old hero who tackled jared lee loughner as our special coverage from tucson continues. >> and there are hopeful signs today as gabrielle giffords fights for her life in a tucson hospital. we'll get the very latest on her condition from the neuro surge on that who is treating her. i have astigmatism. so my old contact lenses would sometimes move out of place and blur my vision. my eye doctor said there's great news for people with astigmatism. acuvue® oasys for astigmatism.
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shooting victim christina green had just had her first common i don't know. it is the one year anniversary of the devastating earthquake in haiti. former president bill clinton is traveling to haiti to mark the anniversary there. former house majority leader tom delay has been sentenced to three years in prison for illegally funneling corporate money to texas republican candidates back in 2002. delay received ten years proceed bag base was released on bail pending his appeal. congresswoman giffords remains in critical condition, but she is responding to command, even giving the thumbs up. signs that doctors say bode well for a good recovery. >> let's check in with her
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doctor. he performed the surgery saturday and joins us now. thanks for you can here with us. >> good morning. you're welcome. >> hi >> have you seen her today and how would you report her condition this morning? >> i have seen her. and i can say that there is no change. and that's good. i know it gets frustrating for family and friends and everyone looking on when we say day after day there's no change. but the simple fact of the matter is if she holds her own, as long as she continues tole follow the simple commands, we're happy. >> one of the key questions has to do with the brain swelling. as i understand it, this is a key day for that. >> in many people with injuries to the brain, the third day is the peak day that we expect to
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see swelling. i have seen some cases where the swelling goes on in the days after, but every day that we get further from the injury, we'll relax a little bit more, but still remain vigilant. >> and, doctor, your colleague yesterday on this show indicated that the breathing tube probably could have been removed now but you guys were holding off in abundance of precaution. we've also heard the reports that she's been reaching for the tube. how soon can we expect to see her taken off? is. >> well, he's absolutely right. she's actually generating all those breaths herself. her brain is telling her lungs to breathe in and she's doing that just fine. the problem when you're in that in and out level of consciousness is that you're not always supporting your airway. so we worry about swallowing your own a creations and getting pneumonia, just those kind of things that we don't want to have happen right now.
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so for that reason we keep the breathing tube it in. and i don't know exactly when that will come out. i'm hoping in the next few days. >> doctor, i know you've really been careful not to speculate about her recovery, but i wanted to ask you about this issue of speech. obviously she cannot physically speak because of the ventilator, but given what we know about her responsiveness, the squeezing of the hand, the thumbs up that she gave, about not for the ventilator, do you have any idea whether she would be able to speak, does that give us any indication?do you have any ideae would be able to speak, does that give us any indication? >> no. and let me go into that a little further. when we speak to someone, there are two centers of the brain that have to be working. one is the part that actually listens to what people say to us, translates, decodes it. and the other one is the part that then puts out the words we want to spring together. both of those have to work for us to speak, if you will. now, we know one is working. she understand what is we say.
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that that's very enkurnlgtsing. t the other one we can't say for sure at this time. >> i know you said earlier this morning that the full range of recovery is in front of her. and again not to speculate, but are all the signs you're seeing indicating that it's going to be a better recovery, that she has a better chance of being on the better side of a recovery from something like this than, say, the lower range? >> i can't even say at this point because even our examination is terribly limited by the fact that she's sedated and still has that breathing tube in place. >> and, doctor, before we let you go, just one kind of your arranging question. based oefeverything you know, w would you say about the brain's ability to recover even from a devastating injury like this one? does the brain have a capacity
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to have work arounds, to come up with n new ways to perform functions? >> it does. particularly in children it's amazing. but there are other ways. the brain doesn't have to just regenerate. there may be circuits that aren't working because they are stunned by the trauma, maybe they'll come back online. so there are many ways the plain can try to compensate and that's why we're so hopeful. >> we all are. so many people pulling for her. i'm sure you're working day and night. it's good of to you take time to speak to us. we really appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you for having me. moving on, it is day two of vice president biden's unannounced visit to afghanistan. his first trip to that country since becoming vice president. >> and biden talked about the shift in security operations to afghan forces before a graduate
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you'll u.s. troop withdrawal that start this is july but doesn't end for a couple of years. >> it is not our intention to govern or to nation build. as president karzai often points out, this is the responsibility of the afghan people and they are fully capable of it. >> you were at that joint press conference -- i call it a press conference though they didn't take any questions. let me ask you about the vice president's quote. he said it's not our intention to nation build. is that what president karzai wants to hear? >> reporter: that's the funny thing, a question we're all asking really. if it's not nation building, then really what is it. the military, the u.s. military, when you talk to the commanders on the ground, they are dealing you that they're providing security, security, hold and build. build being the key component.
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and any afghan that you talk to, including those in president karzai's administration, will tell you that they need that help, that they need the building because the only way to actually have a successful mission in afghanistan is to have that building process. and even the americans, washington, nato, different coalition countries are saying that right now the afghans can't do it themselves. the afghans are saying that they can't do it themselves. and when you go to the district and the provinces, you're hearing from the afghans that they do believe change will come if the foreigners do it. i've heard this with my own ears. they don't trust it if the afghans will do it. and that's why we're seeing more and more afghans turning to the taliban because they believe in the end the nato coalition will leave them alone and they'll have to fend for themselves. >> and the vice president's day, the rest of his day, i know he met with general petraeus,
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ambassador eikenberry. how is he spending the rest of his time in afghanistan? >> reporter: from what we know, he's going to be heading off to talk to other military commanders. if we remember back in 2009, vice president biden was fully against this counter insurgency strategy that president obama implemented in afghanistan, a strategy general petraeus is fully backing. counterterrorism is something that vice president biden was actually information, meaning a smaller u.s. military footprint. about if they really will start drawing down in july 2011 as is expected, that doesn't mean that they're fully going leave and they'll have to rely on counterterrorism, which means more special operation forces on the ground as well as drone strikes in different areas of not just afghanistan, but also pakistan.
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>> all right, tia, thanks very much covering the vice president's first trip as vice president to afghanistan. thanks very much. well, coming up, defending jared lee loughner. could the man accused of murdering six people escape a prison sentence or even the death penalty? >> well, his defense attorney is no stranger to high profile cases. coming up next, we will talk to criminal defense attorney here in tucson, he'll talk to me about some of the charges loughner is facing and why it may be tough to mount an insanity defense. ♪ sun in the sky
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his defense attorney's main goal is to keep loughner off of death row and she has a track record in high profile cases. joining me now, he defended warren jeffs and he joins me now. mike, you and i go way back. you've obviously had a lot of high profile cases. when a lot of people look at this case and they hear more about the suspect, they think here's a guy who had mental problems and they think i bet those defense attorneys will try to moubts nts an insanity defen. talk about the law and why it isn't that easy to get a client off by claiming insanity. >> first of all, anyone who commits a crime like this has some type of mental defect or disease. but the law of insanity is much stricter. it has an obligation to show not only a serious mental disease
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but that he did not appreciate that his behavior was wrong. >> and that's really the key issue. it isn't just enough to show he's got mental problems because clearly there's a record of that. but the defense would have to show he literally did not know the difference between right and wrong. >> right, that he does not know his abctions were wrong. it's a hard defense both state and federal. >> and when you look at some of the facts, and the facts are very key here, won't the prosecutors point to things he did that seem to show consciousness of guilt if he tried to eraid capture, that kichb kind of thing, to show here's a guy who knows what he was doing was wrong in. >> i'm sure there's a lot we know, but evidence that would indicate you understand that your actions are wrong would clearly be relevant and there appears to be at least from the public record lots of information on that. i think his mental disease and defect would appear to be more appropriate at maybe the
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sentencing phase in an attempt to avoid the death penalty. >> at the same time, if you were hired as his defense attorney, isn't that kind of the only avenue you'd have, the in-sanit defense? >> buiguilt or innocence is rea not an issue, so the insane defense is the obvious one. but you have to put notice in the court record and the client gets subjected to a battery of . even if you win, you photo mental institutimego toe mental snugss and you're not released until you're not a danger to yourself or others or community which under the circumstances of this case would probably be never. >> do you family at this points his lawyers will be primarily concerned with trying to evade a death sentence? >> i think that would be the main focus.
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he has very skilled lawyer, but let's not forget the u.s. attorney's office has appointed one of its top trial haur lawye. so both sides are well represented. and i think the likelihood of mr. loughner walking out of the courtroom a free man under the best of circumstances is slim to none. >> and we've got federal charges already filed and because of federal judge involved here, he it's been moved to phoenix. and then the possibility, in fact i would say probably the certainty of state charges. so what goes first? >> the federal system has begun. so generally i believe the federal system will run its course and then the state system when they are done with him completes their process will turn him over to the state. the state will put a hold on him. and at that point in arizona, we have eliminated the defense of insanity, but it's guilty except
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sane sa insane temperature insane. and if you prevail, you get sentenced to a term of imprisonment which in this case would be life undoubtedly if the death penalty is not imposed. and then you go to the mental institution and if your mental disease gets better, then you go back to prison. >> so let's say he cuts a deal with the feds or he doesn't get the death penalty in the federal system. that wouldn't preclude the state authority from pursuing death penalty. >> no, any resolution has to be on both levels. there are state and federal homicide charges and he'll deal with both because they're all very serious matters. >> i want to turn personal poo moment. you've been in tucson a long time and i know you appeared before judgele roland, and you knew him. what would you want people to know about him? >> i considered john rolle a
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friend before he would seek you out, remember the name of your spouse, remember the names of your children and ask about your family and very cordial and professional. and also before he was a judge, a super trial lawyer. so he knew what it was like to actually do it as opposed to just judge it. >> and a final thought on tucson. our hometown. i know it's almost surreal oto see it spotlight, everybody talking about it. what do you want people to know about this place and how do you feel your friends and neighbors and community ary acting to this community? >> tucson is not the caricature that has been plot up of extremist politics and extremist people and tucson has always been a little progressive onclave that is small town in many ways and most of the community they know or know people who know people who have been killed. apart from congressman giffords'
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role everyone is intermeshed and it seems like it touched everyone in some manner personally. but it's good because there are a lot of good, decent people here and they're coming together. you can tell by the vigils and try by talking to them and try to appreciate each other more on a daily basis. >> michael, long-time tucson defense attorney. glad to have you here. >> thanks for having me. we will be right back with a reminder you can follow us any time on twitter @chucktodd, @savannahguthrie. pation. ...and? it helped balance her colon. oh, now that's the best part. i love your work. [ female announcer ] phillips' colon health. pediatrician recommended pain reliever for children. plus, children's advil® brings fever down faster than children's tylenol®. choose children's advil®. relief you can trust.
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before we go, savannah. tucson native and your alma mater is right there in tucson and i can only imagine when you first heard this happened in your hometown and you're hearing people depict your home state. i know if this would happen to
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me, you get your back up a little bit, but, how is your mom reacting to this and how are you reacting to this? >> well, i think everyone is just shocked. and, you're right, i think when you probably come from a big city that's in the news all the time, you're used to hearing your town's name in the news. we're not used to that in tucson and just to have it splashed all over the headlines, especially in this way. it feels personal. and i can say i feel very lucky and privileged just to be here right now. there are a lot of people i love here, my mom being at the very top of that list and everyone feels it so personally. it's not just my hometown, this is my home neighborhood. the safeway across the street is where my mom shops every day and a lot of my girlfriends say that it just happens i wasn't there. if i was there, i would have walked over and said hi to ga y
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gabby. they feel that they know their congresswoman which is a testament to how much time she spent in this community and how long she served this community. so, the one thing i hear over and over again in my time here so far and far and we just heard mike say it, they don't want the world to think of tucson this way. get to know this interesting desert town in a way that shows off the best qualities. tucson is showing off some of its best qualities in the way it's come together and people are really showing they're caring. this has really hurt the town profoundly. >> i can only imagine. you know, sometimes you can't and you said something earlier about whether tucson lost its innocence. what did you mean by that? >> well, it's just that i think because a lot of people have said this, but everyone kind of thinks of tew ucson as a small
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town. when i moved here when i was 3 1/2 years old, this was the outskirts of town. now the city has gotten so big, you could almost call it midtown. but even so, there's as aspect to small town quality. there's still that feeling to it. to have this terrible violence and this national spotlight on this town is just incredibly painful. and, look, let's not sugar coat it, this is a town along the border and this town has had its share of drug problems and there's violence here and it has all the problems that a major city has. but, still, it's a close knit community and this has just come as a complete shock. >> well, it's a shock i think to a lot of communities watching this. anyway, thanks. thanks for sharing that, savann savannah. i know we don't like to get personal very often, but thank you. >> as you know, sometimes you can't help it. it just feels personal.
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we'll continue our coverage from tucson. chris jansing has been here doing an amazing job. she picks up the coverage next. the president is coming tomorrow and at 1:00, chuck, as you know, "andrea mitchell reports." >> she will speak with terrance gainer to talk about increased security at the capital. we'll see you back here tomorrow. >> ( baby crying ) >> grandfather: our first grandson. >> father: he sees you.
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